Is it possible to edit whateve
 

Is it possible to edit whatever database NC uses for its chords analysis ?

Generally it is good but it seems to me that it has e.g. 'a thing' about E minor - in the piece I'm currently on, a chord of (from the bass ) G/E/Bb/E) which in context is fairly clearly a second inversion of C7 is tagged as Em or Em7b5, depending on how much 'choice' I allow it. Which reminds me that I had examples of the same thing in another piece a week or so ago !


Ian G.

Howdy Ian, The short answer
 

Howdy Ian,

The short answer is "no" http://www.notation.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif

However, if you have an example file, or example snippet file, we can take a look at it and use it as an example for fine-tweaking the chord analysis logic in the program.

ttfn,
Sherry

How much do you need - more th
 

How much do you need - more than the specific chord ? Ian

Howdy Ian, It would be good
 

Howdy Ian,

It would be good to have at least part of the file, so that the surrounding musical context is present. Composer doesn't just analyze a chord in exclusion to it's surroundings. As you mentioned above, context can affect whether one reads a given chord as one thing or another. Since there are an infinite variety of "contexts" we could test (in my spare time, mind you ;) ), it would be helpful if you've got a case that is clearly in need of tweaking that we could use to do the tweaking http://www.notation.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif

So I guess the answer is "enough context to help us see where the chord analysis can pick up enough clues to make a better chord name guess." If the piece is one you don't want to post publicly, please feel free to send it to me at the helpdesk (support@notation.com) or directly to me my email (just click on my post name to the left here.)

ttfn,
Sherry

Morning Sherry I'd hate
 

Morning Sherry

I'd hate to keep you from your knitting too long :-) !

Here's the actual file in question. The chord at issue is the opening one.

This probably looks an odd fragment - I'll post you something else by way of context / explanation later in the day - for now, just off to take Herself to Ikea. (I don't suppose Ikea has reached the West Coast yet ?)

Sincerely

Ian <center><table border=1><tr><td>http://www.notation.com/discus/icons...hment_icon.gifE min I don't think
schafe2C.not (9.2 k)</td></tr></table></center>

Hallo again, Sherry. schafe
 

Hallo again, Sherry.

schafe2C.not was a transitional file in something I'm trying out. I'm trying to make a style file for Biab which will run some sort of approximation of a JSB-type keyboard obbligato line. To do this, you have to prepare model passages (fragments - 1,2, 4 or 8 beats)in C - schafe2C.not was part of that preparation.

I've now put up a quick file of the original. (I'm sorry it doesn't sound too nice - it's a mix of direct input and post hoc editing.) The chord which was the point of my first comment is now measure 3 beat 3, and at its original pitch, and looking for simply maj/minor chords, NC has called it A minor. Which knocks my original speculation on the head - it's obviously not specifically to do with E - the recurrence on E must just have been coincidence. But equally, no chord with an Eb in it can be A minor, any more than one with a Bb in it can be E minor.
Given a wider choice, NC plumps for A dim - for which there is a case, I can see.

Maybe I'm making too much of this - go back to your knitting if you like :-} !!

Ian G. <center><table border=1><tr><td>http://www.notation.com/discus/icons...hment_icon.gifmore-schafe-context
schafe-obbligato.not (11.0 k)</td></tr></table></center>

Howdy Ian, Ikea has reached
 

Howdy Ian,

Ikea has reached over here (from what I read), but I have yet to personally see a store. But I live in the middle of a beanfield http://www.notation.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif

I'm not knitting at the moment ;) but I will let this one go at your suggestion. We do have some better chord name transcription in the works, and hopefully it will make things a bit better.

So how is the style file generation thing coming? I've got BIAB 2006, and I've only half-heartedly tried "rolling my own" style. I wasn't very successful, but I wasn't trying very hard either. I'd be interested to know how it goes for you.

ttfn,
Sherry