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Old 06-09-2005, 03:42 AM
Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Default Howdy, If the soundfont thr

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Old 06-23-2005, 03:39 AM
Garritan
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Default Thanks Sherry for your help in

Thanks Sherry for your help in making the tutorial "Using Garritan Personal Orchestra in MidiNotate Composer". And thanks to Mark for writing this 35 page thorough guide. And a special thanks to David Walsen for the awesome graphics.

I put up the tutorial on my site. It can be viewed here:

http://www.garritan.com/tutorial/Mid...POTutorial.htm

I like MidiNotate's ability to do controller tweaking right on the score. It's also easy to use and intuitive. There's alot I like.

All the best,

Gary Garritan
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:55 PM
Erwin O (erdax)
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Default Hi I have (maybe a dump

Hi

I have (maybe a dump) question about using the volume in gpo.
Raising or lowering the Ctrl Graph Volume doesn't affect the GPO Studio, only changing the loudness of each note works but that isn't the correct way to do so. It's only helpfull for the moment.

I couldn't find anything about it in the GPO manual.

Oh, it works fine with my soundcard (the volume graph)

Thanks
.....Erwin
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Old 09-13-2005, 03:42 PM
Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Default Howdy Erwin, Trust me - the

Howdy Erwin,

Trust me - there are no dumb questions! GPO is a wonderful library, and there are so many variables that you can use to get so many nuances out of the instruments, that it can be a bit boggling!

With GPO, the "attack" of the notes is dependent on the Mod wheel. You can still use the volume control to control the volume of that attack, but you must have some sort of mod wheel value that's high enough to get GPO to give you sound.

So, you can do things a couple of ways. If you're just messing about with GPO, you can use either the mod wheel on your MIDI keyboard to work with volume, or you can use the mod wheel on the virtual keyboard for GPO.

When using Composer, if you're recording into the program and want to use the mod wheel for volume and dynamics, Composer will record these as you perform on your MIDI keyboard. Or, if you want to edit the Mod wheel graph after you enter your notes, you can do it that way, too. This allows you to either set a constant value, or to use the Mod wheel graph to get some very convincing dynamics out of the instrument performances.

I hope this is helpful!
Sherry

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Old 09-13-2005, 04:32 PM
Mark Walsen (markwa)
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Default Hello Erwin, Sherry's t

Hello Erwin,

Sherry's tips are good. Also, be sure to check out the Composer/GPO tutorial at www.notation.com/MidiNotateComposerGPOTutorial.htm.

Cheers
-- Mark


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Old 09-13-2005, 08:46 PM
Erwin O (erdax)
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Default My God, why couldn't I thi

My God, why couldn't I think about that. I knew the Mod Wheel was used for volume and dynamics but in Composer I didn't think about it.
Thanks anyway for being the guide.

Yes, I use your tutorial Mark, it's a very good one but because I'm going Digital I'm reading a lot of tutorials and that isn't always easy.

Cheers
......Erwin

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Old 02-02-2006, 10:45 AM
Clyde (clyde)
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Default Hi Mark, I have been experi

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Old 02-02-2006, 01:42 PM
Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Default Howdy Clyde, I'm not M

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Old 02-02-2006, 01:48 PM
Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Default p.s. Clyde, I should have m

p.s. Clyde,

I should have mentioned that even if you don't want to make mod wheel changes for the dynamics, you still have to have the mod wheel turned up (you can give it a fixed value) for the other MIDI parameters to have much effect. This may well be the problem that you're experiencing. The current default for the mod wheel in Composer is "0", because the mod wheel usually has a very different function for other sound engines than GPO. So you'll need to at least set a constant value for it for any GPO instrument staff.

ttfn,
Sherry
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Old 02-02-2006, 02:28 PM
Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Default Howdy Clyde, It just occurr

Howdy Clyde,

It just occurred to me that you have the Big Band version, rather than GPO, so you may not have a french horn. I just tried the file out with other instruments (such as clarinet) and it worked fine for demonstrating the differences in the controllers.

ttfn,
Sherry
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Old 02-02-2006, 10:41 PM
Clyde (clyde)
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Default Hi Sherry, Thanks for the

Hi Sherry,
Thanks for the explanation and demo files. What your demo seems to say to me is:
(a) That GPO does not really use note velocity for volume control. It uses the 'Loudness' and 'Modulation' controls.
(b) Midi files that use note 'velocity' for volume control (eg BIAB) will not work correctly within GPO, unless 'velocity' controls are changed to either 'Loudness' or 'Modulation'.

Have I understood you correctly?

I notice on the Garritan web page that for some packages there are 'plug ins' to do this conversion of translating 'velocity' to what GPO requires.

Is there a feature like this already in Composer? Or do you know of a stand alone package that does this conversion (ie converts the midi file before it is read into Composer)?

Cheers ... Clyde
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Old 02-03-2006, 01:20 AM
Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Default Howdy Clyde, You wrote: &

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Old 09-27-2007, 10:26 PM
Mike Kat
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Default I'm having a lot of diffic

I'm having a lot of difficulties.

After I installed GPO, Notation Composer will no longer open. When I open up GPO Studio, it explains that it could not find any Garritan libraries, and to please reinstal GPO. I did this, and nothing changed.

Can anybody help?
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:44 AM
Tim Fatchen (flyingtadpole)
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Default Mike, I had a similar issue at

Mike, I had a similar issue at the time but as I'm prone to computers falling over (it's my animal magnetism, I'm sure) I thought it was just me. It probably was, but... What I did in the end (FIRST backing up all songs that were in the Notation folder) was uninstall the lot, then new-install GPO studio and GPO, which I had to do a couple of times to get the multis up (a known installation problem, see the Garritan website where there turns out to be a simpler fix which, obviously, I didn't look for until I no longer needed it).

Once GPO AND Garritan Studio were installed and working, I new-installed Composer which opened without problems, played music but made no sound. At that stage I went into the MIDI devices quick setup and made sure this tiem I'd setup Garritan Studio 1, Studio 2 etc as devices, THEN it all worked.

I have no idea why GPO didn't properly install, or why Composer may or may not have taken offence. I do know that it took me five attempts to install MS Office 2000 (full legal professional version)when I last did it, so that it worked properly on my systems, (and there were still odd drivers missing....they were on the cd, just didn't install).

I just work on the basis that once a program is huge, which is especially the case for GPO, things don't always read or get read. Or alternatively, computers often do things for no apparent reason, a belief firmly established in 1968 and which I've never had reason to shift from. Mark or the more technically minded might have a better fix, but I'd just try again.
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:40 PM
Mark Walsen (markwa)
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Default Hello Kat,


Hello Kat,

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font>

After I installed GPO, Notation Composer will no longer open. When I open up GPO Studio, it explains that it could not find any Garritan libraries, and to please reinstal GPO. I did this, and nothing changed.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>My understanding here is that the basic problem with Notation Composer now is that it will not start.

The first thing to try is restarting Windows, which is a cure for so many installation problems, such as might have been caused by the GPO or Kontakt Player installers.

If restarting Windows doesn't help, then I suspect that Notation Composer is severely confused about the GPO MIDI devices (Garritan Studio 1, Studio 2, etc.). If that is the case, then Notation Composer is at blame. You can probably work around this problem by deleting the file named mididev.cfg in \Program Files\Notation\Composer. Also, if you find a same-named file mididev.cfg in the parent directly \Program Files\Notation, then delete it also.

Please let us know which of the above cures the problem for you, or not.

Cheers
-- Mark
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Old 09-29-2007, 11:19 PM
Mike Kat
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Default Thanks, I got Notation working

Thanks, I got Notation working now (it was the mididev.cfg file). I'm going to try installing GPO and Studio again now.
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