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No sound from Aria Player after configuring with Notation
Hi. I watched your video for installing a virtual MIDI cable, and also the video about getting started with Garritan. All seemed to be well. I had the new virtual cable (LoopBe) connected to both the Aria player and Notation. When I went to play a MIDI file on Garritan, however, no sound. Obviously, I am missing something. One explanation might be that, although I have "Loop B Internal Midi" in place as my Device, I cannot find the same instrument names on Composer as exist on Aria (e.g. "n-Steinway Piano," as opposed to the standard "Piano").
Also, I want to make sure I have it right for the Setup>Configuration. If I understand correctly, there should be no Input port selected, but the Output port should be LoopBeInternalMidi, if this is to work right. Please let me know if I have it wrong, or if you can set me right on anything else. Hope this all makes sense... Thanks, and I'm looking forward to being able to coordinate between my Notation and Garritan programs. |
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Re: No sound from Aria Player after configuring with Notation
Hi, jpbaker:
Having the same instrument names in the Composer list isn't directly relevant. You can update the instrument names separately. You're probably just looking at a General Midi list in Composer. I don't have the Garritan software, so I'm talking through my hat, here, but I suggest you need to make sure that each reception channel in Garritan is set to listen for input from the LoopBe IN for that channel. I don't use LoopBe anymore, either, but it should be as simple as LoopBe1 OUT on Composer, then LoopBe1 IN on Garritan. One last thought: make sure that midi isn't muted in the LoopBe1 tray icon. I hope that helps, but, as I say, I might be talking through my hat. David |
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Re: No sound from Aria Player after configuring with Notation
Howdy,
Garritan libraries can be a lot of fun and offer some great sounds but there is a bit of a learning curve. I'm going to go "in line" for my response here. Quote:
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If you weren't hearing any sound when playing the .mid file in the Aria player, then the audio output there may not have been selected correctly. Quote:
The instrument names that you see in Composer's Staff Setup are the General MIDI (GM) default instrument names for MIDI devices that use the GM instrument name (patch) map. That instrument grid is sufficient for any GM setup because it communicates to the GM device about where to get the particular instrument sound, but the Garritan Libraries are not set up that way The Aria player assigns a particular instrument to a particular channel for that device (in your case using the LoopBe connection). So for your purposes you can just ignore the names in the Staff Setup grid. The main things you will need to be sure of are that
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Hopefully something above will help you get going. If not, just let us know ttfn, Sherry
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Re: No sound from Aria Player after configuring with Notation
Thank you both for your input (no pun intended... well, maybe a bit). I found that the LoopBe window was indeed set to "Mute," so unchecking it solved the problem at hand. I'm sure I will run in to other issues, but I am relieved to at least get it connected the way I wanted. Sherry, thanks for the template files. I've used Notation Composer for many years and am just now venturing out in to using it with another program.
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Re: No sound from Aria Player after configuring with Notation
Okay... so now that I'm able to play a MIDI file on Notation and hear it in Aria, I'm getting a popup window that reads: "Error: MIDI Feedback! (Shortcut) Error: Do not connect MIDI OUT and MIDI IN of LoopBe1 within a single Application!" This is after I have made sure I have Notation set as Output and Aria as Input. It then goes mute. I notice at this point that the little box in the "LoopBe1" window has set itself to "Mute." I click on this, and it unmutes, but now some of the instrument sounds are not playing. Even if not, that pesky window pops up again in a few seconds, and it goes mute again. Anyone have any experience with this? Or maybe had more success with a different MIDI cable besides LoopBe1?
In a separate matter, when I adjust the volume of an instrument on Notation, it does not adjust in Aria when I play it; for example, I'll notice the Trumpet is playing louder than I'd like on Aria, so I adjust the volume on Notation, but it still plays the same volume on Aria. This has always happened, whether I'm connected via LoopBe1 or playing a MIDI file that I have uploaded to Aria. Thanks! |
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Re: No sound from Aria Player after configuring with Notation
Hi,
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MIDI_device_OUT-only-small.jpg If it doesn't, double-click the Device name and then make sure the boxes are checked and unchecked like so: Device_Properties_Out-only.jpg Click "Ok" to save the setting. Quote:
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Playing a .mid file in the Aria player itself is pretty limited because about the only thing that Aria does to correct anything (at least as far as I've ever heard) is to assign a reasonable Mod Wheel setting during playback so that you can at least hear the file. Composer gives you a lot better tools to edit the performance. ttfn, Sherry
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Re: No sound from Aria Player after configuring with Notation
Thanks, Sherry - this seems to take care of the problem! Now I will look forward to learning the Mod Wheel.
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