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Old 04-05-2013, 04:22 PM
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Hi Sherry

Again many thanks for your reply.

I will try and answer your questions as best as I can:

1. I am afraid the Playlist Option would not suit the setup.

2. When you say that the that the Notation Composer won't TAKE a MIDI command what I am asking it to do is to GIVE one to the BK-7M without involving any sheets on the Composer.

3. You are perfectly correct when you say that the Performance aspect is something that is saved on the unit, and is not normally controlled via an internal MIDI command, however, it can be controlled by an MIDI command thegiven from an external source. I will explain this, I have a Roland A800Pro Midi Controller and if I allocate one of its buttons with the appropriate midi command to select a Performance (Sheet or Song) that is contained in the “My Performances “ UPS file in the BK-7m ,then that button when pressed will pass the command to the BK-7M and the selection will be made. This shows that what Roland says is correct that the command must come from an external source . by selecting this way you would need a few hundred buttons to select your Music Sheets which Ibam afraid is not practical.

4. The command in this case has nothing to do with instruments or styles but just recalling a Specific Performance Memory set up on a list in the BK-7M.

5. The BK-7M does not have an internal Hard Drive but all the data ,outside basics, are stored on USB Stick which is plugged into the back of the unit.

6. All Roland equipment from what I read are controlled by three CC commands which I have said previously; The Bank Select MSB, The Bank Select LSB and the Program Change (PC).
Now if I take one example of the command which I have to send to select one particular Music Sheet it would be ;

Recalling a Performance Memory from the loaded Performance List Via MIDI

Bank Select MSB
CC00 = 122 (This is a fixed value)

Bank Select LSB
CC32 = 00 (This could have a value from 0 to 7–Page Value)

Program Change (PC)
PC = 2 (This could have a value from 1 to 128 – Performance Memory Number )

In this example I would be calling Music Sheet No. Two on the List on Page One .

I can totally appreciate that without the hardware it can be most difficult to understand and I feel you have done fantastic in your assessments. I do hope that my modest explanations might be of some help.

Again my sincere thanks for your help.

Kind regards

Toni
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:31 PM
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Hi Toni,

Would something like the following be suitable?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keybo...ehringer-bcn44

ttfn,
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:26 AM
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Hi Sherry

My sincere thanks for you taking an interest in my problem. I do realise from your previous mail that my Notation Composer can not be used so you could have passed it off and advised me to look elsewhere, so for this I appreciate your help.

I downloaded the manual for the BCN44 and looked on the net for any further information. I would be using it as a Midi Merge and I came across the following report, which throws a little doubt as to its suitability;

“A point to note regarding using the BCN44 as a MIDI merge - the BCN44 is equipped with a MIDI in, for use primarily with a MIDI keyboard. The level of data traffic at the midi input should be relatively low. However - if the input device is a fully-fledged MIDI instrument - the level of data traffic is immense, and this can lead to blockages at the MIDI input buffer. In this application the BCN44 will not be adequate as a MIDI Merge function.”

I will have to be honest and say that my tech. knowledge of MIDI equipment is very limited as to compatability, manner of connection etc.etc.

I will look further into the suitability of this machine and come back and let you know how I get on. Again my thanks for your interest.

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Toni
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:32 AM
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Hi Toni,

It might be worth asking on some of the Roland user forums that are around (I just googled "roland user forum" and came up with quite a few) if anyone else is doing what you want to do, and see how they're doing it.

If anyone is using a MIDI sequencer to do these changes, then there's quite possibly a way that we can get Notation Composer to do it for you

Good luck!
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:06 PM
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Hi Sherry

Many thanks for your reply.

I am a member of the Roland Arramger Group and The BK-7M Yahoo Group and
needless to say that they were my first port of call several weeks ago as
they are a great bunch of lads and lassies (like yourself !) who would be
only too willing to help if they could ,unfortunatly I have had no luck.. I
am afraid that I was clutching at straws for an answer when I contacted your
site as I just thought that Notation Composer might just have had some
facility which I overlooked.

I have not gven up on this yet and will let you know one way or the other in
due course. I should say at this point that Notation Composer is doing
exactly what I want it to do for me and I would be lost without it.

Again my sincere thanks for your interest.

Kind regards

Toni
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